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jrohrs66

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The reason I ask is because that was my grandfathers ship he was the pilot, but my family always said his bird was named "never satisfied". I even have his A2 jacket with that phrase painted on the back. But the tail # for is different. Anyone have an idea?
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Jared,

While he may have flown "Never Satisfied" on most of his missions, it is likely he flew other planes as well on other missions.  I'll find out for you and get back to you with the info.

 

Joel


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arango

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Hi, 
Capt. Robert Winalski (my wife's grandfather) was (I thought) the A/C commander, perhaps 2nd stick on that flight... I remember reading the MACR (#12491) a few years ago that gave very good detailed info about the accident, and who was who, unfortunately I didn't get a copy (need to go back and do that).

Anyways, what we'd always heard was that the A/C was nicknamed the "Gee Bobby" after his son (my wife's dad). The local paper clipping (of the 'accident') says as much, but that info was likely provided by his wife, so again, not 100% sure. 

I have been on the lookout for the A/C's nose art/tail graphics/etc.

FWIW, we have a crew pic of crew 439, (still at Hunter Fld, GA) on 11/3/44 before deploying to IT. The crew in that pic is: CAPT Winalski, 2LT Hafeman, 2LT Babyak, SSGT Wendzel, SGT MacDonnell, SGT Neal, PVT Rickson, PVT Smith, & CPL Knott. 

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Glenn
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Glenn,

I can provide you with a copy of the Missing Air Crew Report, either a transcribed copy or a copy of the original, whichever you prefer. 

 

In exchange, if you would, I would like a copy of the crew photo you mentioned to add to our pictorial history CD that is about to "go to press" or be completed, ready for distribution soon, with your permission, of course.  I can also provide you with all of the missions flown by Capt. Winalski and crew, plus the a/c he flew each mission on, if you would like.

 

I will investigate this further and get back to you on this.  I do have a photo of the tail art for the "Never Satisfied".

 

 


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arango

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Hi Joel-

All that info would be great.. that would be amazing! Absolutely no problem sharing the image with you... I can scan it when I get home this weekend (I'm actually on holiday at the moment).

About #253 though, are you confirming it was named "Never Satisfied" (and debunking that it was the "Gee Bobby")?

I also have a bunch of original stuff from the time, copies of the deployment orders, the telegrams and official letters of his MIA status and liberation from the Stalag where he was held, newspaper clippings of both, etc.. Not sure how much of this is of historical value to your org... I'm more than happy to scan and share if you like. 

Let me know how you want me to get the scans to you.

Cheers.
GA
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Since I am away from home currently, the only list I have on this computer indicates that #261 was "Never Satisfied".  The only #253 listed for the 463rd was #44-8253, PFF aircraft, MIA Vienna, 15 Feb 45.  Hit by bombs from overhead group, crashed near Vienna.

 

And I would be interested in any materials you would be willing to share with us.  It all pertains to the history of the men who served in the 463rd.  Depending upon the amount of materials we are talking about here, you may wish to burn it to CD and mail that to me.  If so, contact me by private message @ Joel@463rd.org and I will provide you with my address.


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johnpalmiii

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Last month a Cincinnati tv station showed a doccumentary named Black & white together. It is the story of a white B-17 pilot & a black P-51 in all black fighter group .called the Tuskegee Airmen. I tried to buy a copy of the program but could not get anyone to return my calls.

Their true story is that they were in the same 3rd grade class & even though they were next to each other in the class photo. As pilots they flew on the same missions but & they met again a few years ago Y became very good friends.

I recently found there is a book "Black And White Airmen" (Their True Story)
bj John Fleishman which is about them.

With the reunion comming up in a couple months I thought everyone would enjoy hearinf this story. We hope to see everyonr in dayton

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I am looking for any info on B-17G s/n 46262...name, crew, and any pictures if there are any.  My Grandfather was a tail/ball turret gunner and I don't have much info on him.

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Misspanam4bill

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Hi. I am replying on behalf of of a non-tech savy friend, Bill Riley. His dad, William F. Riley, was a pilot on the Miss Pan Am. Bill has two flight logs from William's missions and a book (text book type) that William wrote. Homer Bud Terry is mentioned in the book. Bill would love to get info to you and from you about the Miss Pan Am days. Please respond to me by email: Festusj1@aol.com or bransonjillybeans@icloud.com.
srd5940

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Hi, trying to find some information out about a plane flown during WW2 for a birthday gift. I've got a name of the person who was part of the crew (I think). His name was Tommie F. Alfano. He was captured in July 1944 and held as a POW for a year. If anyone is still active and can help in any way it would be much appreciated! 
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I do not show a Tommy F. Alfano on our rosters at any point during the war, nor any name close to that. Sorry I cannot be of more help.
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